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@ 2007-12-04 11:40:00
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Deathly Hallows uberwank: Chapter 19, The Silver Doe
Disclaimer tiem nao! OK, so these are hardly family-friendly most of the time, but this one is really, really not safe for work - specifically, because it contains even higher levels of profanity than usual and... um...

... look, it's got what I guess is NC-17 Harry/Ron in it, all right? I didn't mean to write it. Cliche of cliches, it just sort of happened.


As the chapter starts, Harry and Hermione are doing exactly what they've been doing since forever, and camping pointlessly. As it's still winter (duh), they keep warm by huddling over Hermione's speciality - blue fire, which can be scooped up and kept in a jar. Now, I have no memory whatsoever of this ever being mentioned in the Potter books before - that is, specifically blue fire that can be scooped up and kept in a jar, but I do remember this happening a fair bit in the Nintendo video game Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.


Things carry on carrying on in this way, and are punctuated only by Harry occasionally settling down for a nice big wank over Ginny's dot on the Marauder's Map, before remembering she's gone home for Christmas. Each time this happens, he finds himself unable to conjure up a viable sexual fantasy, and simply goes for a run in the snow to use up some of that excess energy.

The main action of the chapter kicks off one identical night when Harry, idly sporting a semi-erection and doodling designs for a tattoo on a bit of paper, sees a bright light in the darkness. It comes closer until Harry can see that it's a glowing silver doe with all the trimmings (by which I mean it's got long eyelashes and stuff, not that it comes with potatoes and a selection of seasonal vegetables, although I could so eat that right now. I'm not sure why I wrote "trimmings", actually). It looks at him and then wanders off, so he follows it. Apparently he instinctively knows this is safe. He instinctively knows this glowing, ethereal silver deer is safe, and therefore follows it. Personally I would be instinctively freaked out, and might even instinctively crap myself. Certainly I would instinctively run like the frickin' wind.

Of course, later in the book we'll find out that Snape sent the doe. And that it's a doe because it represents Lily. Why? Why is Lily a doe? Because James was a stag? But James was literally a stag, he could turn into one and presumably, if he wanted, fight with other stags and make that funny chesty-cough noise that stags make during rutting season (it really is called that, which is, in my view, hilarious). But Lily? She wasn't an animagus - at least, there is no evidence whatsoever that she was. Why is she a doe? Because she... died just like Bambi's mother? What? Or is it just because James was a stag and she has to "match"?

It seems a bit weird, then, that Snape's patronus is supposed to represent her, but only as an extension of her husband - who Snape hated! Isn't that, like, the whole point?

Also - Snape's patronus is a doe and Harry's is a stag. If that's not subtexty then I don't know what is.

After a while, the magic alien deer vanishes, leaving Harry alone in the woods next to a little frozen pool. A bit of the old Lumos reveals... the sword of Gryffindor at the bottom of the pool! Harry wants that sword, man, he wants it bad.

It's been discussed elsewhere exactly how stupid Harry is, but I feel it bears repeating. Off the top of my head, I can think of, oh, 80,647 ways Harry could get the sword, but he doesn't consider any of them. For example, in about book three, or maybe four, Hermione melts a path through the snow using her wand, which presumably involves the production of heat. Harry regularly sends pointless sparks out of the end of his wand, which are shown to heat water on at least one occasion (in the lake in GoF). But no, he tries a couple of things which were never going to work and then leaps right in and - this is the point - acts like this is the inevitable only possible option, despite an absolute lack of evidence for this. (Harry? Here's the thing. There are other spells beyond Accio and Expelliarmus, you know. It's like how [info]evil_underlord is always telling me that it's OK to sometimes cook things with no garlic in.)

Anyway, having attempted to accio the sword, Harry tries the only other thing he can think of, which is based on something Dumbledore once told him about how if you ask for help, you might get it. He says, "help," out loud. This does nothing, so Harry takes off most of his clothes and leaps right into the pond. This reminds me a little of a whole bunch of King Arthur type crap, but mainly it reminds me of the video to the James Blunt "song", You're Beautiful, which is about stalking a woman or something.


(Warning: video provided for illustrative purposes only. Before viewing, please ensure your speakers are muted. Do NOT under any circumstances listen to the song. It's turgid shite.)

Harry's rationale for jumping in also involves the fact that he's a Gryffindor, and that Gryffindors are brave and chivalrous. You know something? I don't think most Gryffindors are brave, I think they're reckless, they're often arrogant and they rarely think things through (there are exceptions, like Neville, who I would argue really is brave).

It's been found (and I wish I could reference this but I can't even remember the term for it - it's not self-serving bias and it's not the fundamental attribution error and I can't remember anything else I did at university except drink, but please rest assured that I spent a good five minutes crawling around looking for my notes which I have, inexplicably, kept Found! Lake Wobegone Effect) that people, in general, essentially believe they are luckier, cleverer, and all-round better than others around them. Survey a decent-sized sample of people on how likely they think they are to die of heart disease, chances are that every one of those people will rate him or herself as unlikely to die of heart disease. Of course, that can't be the case - that's not how averages work. The same applies if you ask those people how intelligent they think they are - they will all rate themselves as "above average intelligence" even though, again, that can't possibly be true. This phenomenon, to me, is what makes a Gryffindor - except that JKR obviously believes they are simply better than everyone else, too. This despite the evidence which clearly shows they're all just really fucking stupid.

I can't even believe I'm going to make this analogy, but it's the best I can think of off the top of my head. In The Lion King (*cringe*), the kid lion goes to the elephant graveyard and almost gets raped by a band of hyenas led by Jeremy Irons (is that right? I haven't seen it for a while), because he wants to be brave like his father. And his father explains that being brave isn't about deliberately getting into trouble - it's about doing what's right even if you'd rather not. Lameass though this makes me, I think that's a pretty good definition.

Cedric Diggory was that kind of brave, I think (I REMEMBER CEDRIC ZOMG). Like I said already, Neville absolutely is. Harry... meh, not so much. He's just kind of stupid. Harry is exactly the type who would go to the elephant graveyard on the assumption that it would make Ginny fancy him. (Think of how he almost murders Draco - who is a mean little turd and all, but as far as Harry knows is pretty much just an incredibly annoying kid in his year at school.) Neville would go to the elephant graveyard because one of his friends was being raped by the hyenas, and would offer himself as a victim instead. That is, if Neville was a lion. I think I might be losing sight of my point a bit.

Moreover, I strongly dislike the fact that we are expected to root for Gryffindors when they seem to manipulate and bully as much as any Slytherins we see. I'd rather be hard-working, clever, or ambitious than a twat.

All I'm saying is - if I collapsed in the street, I would strongly hope the passer-by who rushed to my aid wasn't a Gryffindor, who would probably start shocking me with a defibrullator, giving me CPR, and bellowing, "Fera! Don't die! Please don't die!" as I vainly tried to get up and explain I'd only twisted my ankle.

Um, yes, anyway. What really gets me is that Harry even admits that jumping into the pool for reasons of "bravery" is stupid and tenuous - the only link with chivalry he can think of is that he hasn't woken Hermione up and asked her to do it for him. There's something ironic somewhere in that - because if he had woken her, she'd probably have been able to come up with, oh, 80,647 ways to get the sword out of the pool without almost dying of hypothermia (after bollocking Harry for waking her, expressing excessive levels of worry about whether it was an Admiral Ackbar-style trap, and probably going to the library for good measure).

Aaaaaaaaaanyway! So! Harry strips off his clothes ready for a swim. For no good reason, though, he leaves his underwear on, even though he's alone in the woods and therefore unlikely to be seen - and surely it's better to be as naked as possible, so that after you get out of the pool you can be dressed completely in warm, dry clothes. The only possible reason I can see is this: JKR knows Ron is going to show up any second, and that he's going to pull Harry out of the pool. When this happens, she wants Harry's dick - which, considering he's just jumped into a frozen pool in the middle of winter, will be shrivelled to the size and shape of a paperclip - to be safely hidden behind clean, wholesome, heterosexual underpants. Because if it's not, then Ron might brush against it with his hand as he pulls Harry out of the icy water - and Harry, in his state of shock and confusion (not to mention the fact that he's not been able to crack one off over Ginny's dot in a couple of weeks), gets hard without even thinking about it being Ron, an instinctive response, and he and Ron both realise what's happened at the exact same moment and there's an extremely tense moment while they stare into each other's eyes before Ron begins to stroke Harry, gently at first, then more firmly, while Harry gasps and tries to push Ron's hand off, but only half-heartedly, and Ron's saying, "No, you want this, we both do", and Harry gasps and pulls Ron's face to his and bites his bottom lip, hard, and then things continue faster and faster and just as Harry screams, "GINNY!" and comes all over Ron's hand, Voldemort leaps out from behind a tree and AKs them both, but it turns out he was filming the whole thing and he puts it on Youtube, and the very last scene in the book is Molly Weasley crying hot, humiliated tears...

Therefore, Harry leaves his underpants on.

... Fuck, did I just write that?

...

So! Anyway! Harry jumps into the pool, it's really cold, he dives to grab the sword but the locket horcrux - which he is still wearing, because he's really stupid, which I cannot stress enough - tightens up and tries to drown or possibly strangle him. Dunno why it didn't try and strangle him before now, except that JK Rowling's editors are suxx0r. Luckily, though, Gollum bites it off and... oh, no, wait, that's not right. Harry passes out...

... And comes round a bit later with Ron by his side. Rather than provide Harry with the aforementioned handjob, Ron berates Harry for jumping in while wearing the horcrux. Thank you, Ron. It's good to know I'm not alone here.

They go over everything that just happened, not least the fact that Ron is back, but that he saw Harry following radioactive Bambi around in the woods, and followed him in turn.

Exposition dealt with, Ron makes to destroy the locket. He keeps on at Harry that Harry should do it, but Harry insists it's Ron's job. There's no reason within the story that it needs to be Ron, he's not the Destined Destroyer Of Jewellery or anything, but it's clear that JKR specifically wanted Ron to do it, for two reasons:

1. It means each Horcrux is destroyed by a different and significant person: the diary by Harry, the ring by Dumbledore, the locket by Ron, the cup by Hermione, the diadem by... well, Crabbe, I guess, which is a bit random, the snake by Neville and the one in Harry by Voldemort.

2. While Ron is waving the sword around inexplicably waiting to tear up the locket, the locket gives off a ghostly, mash-up Harry and Hermione who pwn Ron, tell him he's a n00b and a luser and everyone hates him, and eventually start making out. This acts as an enormous kick in the bollocks to Harry/Hermione shippers. Well, actually, I guess it also allows us to see some of Ron's fears and insecurities, but it does it through the medium of kicking Harry/Hermione shippers really hard in the bollocks.

Harry delivers a final boot to the groin reassures Ron by re-enacting this scene from Return of the Jedi more or less word-for-word:



(Except without the yowly Ewok noises going on in the background, obviously.)

Harry and Ron exchange manly hugs in a totally manly and non-gay way and head back to the tent. Hermione isn't totally pleased to see Ron, though, and calls him a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf-herder, or something. Actually, no, she calls him an "arse", which I'm sure is supposed to have impact, because there hasn't been anything approaching swearing in any previous books (except for one use of "slut" in book six, I believe) and this shows how Hermione totally means it - but, honestly, I think it comes across as all kinds of hilarious, because "arse" doesn't really do Hermione's rage justice (in her position, I'd be calling Ron an "uncle-fucking jizzstain" or "dog-raping shitflap" or simply a "monumental cock", although I suspect those would be even funnier coming out of Hermione's mouth), and because "arse" is a fucking funny word in general.

Then they rehash everything that just happened. Ron explains he tried to come back that very first night, but couldn't find them, and then he got picked up by Jawas Snatchers, and then escaped. A while later, many weeks in fact, the deluminator led him back - apparently it not only turns the lights on and off, it also can give off balls of light which float into your chest and then you apparate and it brings you exactly where you need to be. Well, duh. By which I mean WTF. It pisses me off no end the way that most of the plot devices JKR uses are either so, so blatantly obvious that you see them coming a mile off (RAB, hello) or else so completely random and out-of-the-blue that there's nothing clever about them. OK, we saw the deluminator in the very first chapter of the very first book, but it just turned out the lights. Prior to now there's been nothing to suggest it can do anything other than that. So this isn't any more intelligent or exciting than if she'd created a completely new magical device called the Friend Finder or something.

There's a book I read a few years back, which I won't even name just in case it's on anyone's to-be-read list. :) The big twist in that book is that the protagonist had an identical twin who died very young, but she's forgotten her. (It's better than it sounds, honestly!) One of the things that made the ending work so well in this particular book was that if you read the book a second time, it is absolutely full of clues to the ending, some of which are almost brazen in how obvious they are. But on the first read, without knowledge of the ending, they utterly pass you by. The ending is - to use another cliche - hidden in plain sight. Or consider something like The Sixth Sense, or Fight Club - again, on a second viewing it's easy to see the clues and foreshadowing that lead up to the eventual OH MY GOD moment.

The deluminator stuff in this book doesn't work in this way, because if you re-read the entire Potter series, there is no indication whatsoever that the deluminator can be used the way Ron uses it here.

So Ron did all that stuff with the deluminator a couple of times, but couldn't find the tent due to the protective charms around it. Then all the stuff I just told you about happened. Then Hermione punches the fuck out of Ron some more and threatens to cut him, because that's always funny, and the credits for this episode roll. Sunday, Monday - Happy Days... etc...

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[info]minnow_53
2007-12-04 02:56 pm UTC (link)
That was brilliant! :) Pretty well had everything, even a reference to a book I guessed the ending of ages early, because of certain clues in the names, if we're thinking of the same book, but anyway.

The porn rocked, the videos were apposite -- though I'd accidentally left my speakers on before I clicked on the second one, and had to listen to the WHOLE of a song I've managed to avoid for several years. But the illustration was perfect. The doe with all the trimmings was great. Well, it was all great.

I was wondering idly whether we ever find out what James's Patronus was. It wasn't a deer, was it? That's just Harry. Maybe I've been missing something.

Anyway, I loved this. Because I work at home, I always love clicking on something that isn't worksafe, because it makes me feel big and important. :D Well worth the wait! &hearts x many. The icon is what I you.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-04 10:49 pm UTC (link)
The book I'm thinking of is by Kate Atkinson - that one?

It figures you'd have spotted the ending either way, on the grounds that you are far too clever. :D I am dense and never see these things coming. Unless I have been unable to contain myself and have looked up the ending on wikipedia or something. :P

The porn rocked

THANK YOU. I was very, very worried about including the porn. It was only sort of a joke, you know...? And I'd never written anything like it before.

I don't think we ever find out what James's patronus is - just because he's so rarely "on screen", as it were, that I can't think when we'd have seen it or heard about it. I could be wrong though.

Hmm - what else -

I'd accidentally left my speakers on before I clicked on the second one

Well, don't say I didn't warn you. :D Srsly, "You're beautiful" is surely one of the most horrifically chilling songs ever written. :-/

Thank you so much for your lovely comments, as always! (I mean, I say that to everyone, but your comments are always so massively encouraging and I want you to know that I really appreciate them. ♥)

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[info]minnow_53
2007-12-05 05:49 pm UTC (link)
Yes, Kate Atkinson's first novel! Well, I think it was her first.

Porn works best when it's slightly tongue in cheek! I don't mean that literally... It was brilliant, like everything else in this instalment. Except for 'You're Beautiful'. :D

Thank you for writing such wonderfully entertaining HP commentary! Your Uberwank never fails to brighten up my day. :)

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[info]sonofabiscuit77
2007-12-04 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Hi! I haven't commented before, but I've just been reading your wank-fests over the past few days and literally snorting with laughter. I would love to do a long review of the whole lot, but that would just be tedious, so I just want to mention some things I particularly *adored*:
1. Lucius Malfoy shopping in Peacocks. Does Narcissa shop in Primark?
2. The many bothans died moment - funnily enough I remember seeing that years ago when I was a kid and even then thinking: WTF is that? Who are the bothans and who cares? Anyway - a perfect analogy.
3. All the SW references in general, because you can *never* have too many of them...
4. Drunk Remus (though I personally have a whole very wankish personal theory about his behaviour being basically due to deep depression brought on by the grief over the loss of his beloved Sirius) but alcholism also works for me, in fact the depression would just lead to the alcholism... hmm, you are so right!!

Anyway, back to this review, I *so* agree with you on Harry's deep deep stupidity here. But I just remember being so pleased that Ron was back as I read this scene for the first time that I pushed away my irritation at the ridiculous dues-ex-machina of the deluminator. (I don't know if you're a Buffy fan, but A LOT of this book reminded me of the final season of Buffy, particularly the convenient plot devices, the ridiculous "plan" and the very flawed hero who is NEVER wrong, not to mention the disappointed fans.)

Sorry to have gone on so long, but please keep these up, they are fabulous and really funny!

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-04 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Hi, nice to meet you. :D It's always so lovely to find new people are reading. As for your intriguing ideas...

Does Narcissa shop in Primark?

Yes, but she pronounces it "Primarche" without a hint of irony. Voldemort prefers George at Asda.

Who are the bothans and who cares?

Exactly. :D

alcholism also works for me, in fact the depression would just lead to the alcholism...

This is what's so weird - drunk Remus started off as a sort of flippant joke made one evening after half a bottle of wine or whatever - but it makes perfect sense the more I think about it. To the point that I can't really see his behaviour as being directly caused by anything else - although you're right about the underlying Sirius factor being part of it, and I'm convinced their relationship was kept secret from everyone too. Especially JK Rowling....

I just remember being so pleased that Ron was back

Me too - Harry and Hermione sulking together is boring, and anyway, I like Ron. His flaws seem a bit more, well, human than Harry's, and certainly more real. I care more about Ron feeling inadequate compared to his siblings than I do about all Harry's, "Oh noes, I have to save the world! Oh noes, what if I have to use my powers for killing?"

Sorry to have gone on so long, but please keep these up, they are fabulous and really funny!

Not at all - I love long comments! Thank you so much for reading and for commenting - I really hope you enjoy future, uh, episodes. :P

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[info]sonofabiscuit77
2007-12-05 03:06 pm UTC (link)
Does Narcissa shop in Primark?

Yes, but she pronounces it "Primarche" without a hint of irony. Voldemort prefers George at Asda.


Or as my sister calls it, Primani.

I like Ron. His flaws seem a bit more, well, human than Harry's, and certainly more real. I care more about Ron feeling inadequate compared to his siblings than I do about all Harry's, "Oh noes, I have to save the world! Oh noes, what if I have to use my powers for killing?"

Yes! Exactly. Ron does come across as a real person. Although I am no fan of CAPSLOCK! Harry and his endless teenage snits, they do make him seem like a teenager - most teenagers are annoying, woe-is-me self-obsessed people and Harry definitely falls into that category. It's the endless allusions to his bravery, sacrifice and that ridiculous happy-to-accept-his-own-death thing at the end of the book that don't work for me.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-05 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Primani = LOL. :D

Agreed on CAPSLOCK!Harry. Yeah, he was kind of annoying, but I thought that was the point - JKR didn't want to create a "pure" hero, or keep him a kid forever like the Famous Five. She wanted him to go through the shouting, smash-it-up, emo phase, because, frankly, it's normal (or at least extremely common!). Of course, it backfires when she brings all the messiah stuff in later - I'll rant about this in detail in that chapter, obviously, but I find Harry pretty unconvincing on the whole "I'm going to sacrifice myself for those I love" thing given that he hits someone with a Cruciatus curse the same day. *Raises eyebrow*

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[info]spacefragments
2007-12-05 12:33 am UTC (link)
urg, i feel horrible for not commenting on these, but i assure you that i'm still reading and enjoying them. in fact, you always seem to post shortly after i wake up, so it's a great way to start my day. :)

i want to play OoT now. i started a new master quest file the other day and completely forgot about it. hmm.

i don't know what to feel about harry. there were so many times i wanted to hit him in the head, but then i was like... aww, i still like him and even if he can be an idiot of epic proportions he's still a good kid :(
reading your uberwank i get the feeling that so many characters got simplified or dumbed down in the book, even harry, who was never the sharpest knife in the drawer to begin with. ah. :/ i did like the ron vs locket thing, though. at least i could identify *somewhat* with his fears, they might be "less terrible" compared to harry's, but... i don't know. they felt more realistic?

i can't even remember the deluminator thing. god, as soon as my cousin gets her cheapo boot-legged translation of DH, i'm stealing it from her.

i did boggle a little at hermione calling ron an arse, maybe because she's supposed to be so *~proper~* an' shit. arse really is a funny word though.

uhmmm the stag/doe thing... i'm assuming james's patronus matched his animagus form, and lily's patronus changed because james symbolized happiness to her-- i guess that, following that logic, her patronus should be a stag too, but... i think that three people with the same patronus might be a bit much. actually, make that four, because if lily's patronus was a stag, then snape's would be, too (since his changed to match hers).
and maybe JKR thought that having the stag/doe pair would be cute, or whatever. I don't mind it, really. i know there was some wank because omg it was a female animal omg that means she submitted to james, etc etc feminist rage etc. but i didn't see what the big deal was, you know.

god that was long. does it make any sense? i bet it doesn't make any sense.

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[info]spacefragments
2007-12-05 03:22 am UTC (link)
so many characters

hmm well, i re-read the comment and after thinking about it for a couple minutes, that was probably an exaggeration. i don't know. i have a headache.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-05 06:25 pm UTC (link)
i don't know what to feel about harry. there were so many times i wanted to hit him in the head, but then i was like... aww, i still like him and even if he can be an idiot of epic proportions he's still a good kid :(

Yeah, totally... I'm getting so deeply immersed in DH as a result of the Uberwank that I keep forgetting what Harry was like in earlier books, and forgetting how much I like him. Like, for example, I remember reading GoF for the first time and feeling so, so sad when Cho turned him down for the ball. I wanted to give him a hug.

I don't know why he's such an annoying dumbass in this one. JKR being lazy, I guess. :(

at least i could identify *somewhat* with his fears, they might be "less terrible" compared to harry's, but... i don't know. they felt more realistic?

Oh, definitely. Not only are his fears realistic, but the reasons behind them are realistic too. Ron comes out of it looking insecure, but he is insecure. For everything, I still like Ron.

"Arse" is probably the most "proper"-sounding swear word JKR could think of, but it's just so... mild, I guess. I've met posh people, they use as filthy language as anyone else, just in a fancier accent. :D

As for the doe - I think you're right and it was a "cute matching pair" thing. It just strikes me as a bit weird, since the other patronuses we've seen either represent the person casting them, or when they represent someone else, it's in a literal way (e.g. Harry's represents James, but James could literally become a stag; same for Tonks's wolf patronus). I dunno, I just think it's a bit vague.

it's a great way to start my day

That is such a nice thing to say and has made me feel really quite fuzzy. Thank you so much. ♥

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[info]spacefragments
2007-12-05 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I dunno, I just think it's a bit vague.

maybe it has something to do with the idea/image of family or whatever. the stag as the father, doe as the mother, etc. since her family was so important to lily, and that's why it's a doe instead of a stag? i don't know, i'm just throwing half-assed ideas around. /shrug

and you're welcome. :D

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[info]vickythefluffy
2007-12-05 04:44 pm UTC (link)
'I'd be calling Ron an "uncle-fucking jizzstain" or "dog-raping shitflap" or simply a "monumental cock"' -- superb, although I think the screenplay writers for GoF would feel mildly insufficient with their mind-blowingly tame "piss off" (bravo Ron).

One of you best chapters, honestly, and OOH you make me feel smug and knowledgeable! I think I know the book, I'm doing it for my comparative essay fandango! But yeah, I don't want to ruin it like you say, but I know what you mean about all the little clues etc. so huzzah, and down with useless plot-devices! =D

PS. Sorry for never singing your praises before now, I am too lazy to be constructive.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-05 06:30 pm UTC (link)
There should be way more swearing in the HP movies. I'm still holding out for Quentin Tarantino to direct DH, ensuring that the dialogue is liberally sprinkled with "motherfuckers". :D

I think I know the book, I'm doing it for my comparative essay fandango!

Hee - if it's the same book, I did an essay on it too, for an elective course at uni.

Sorry for never singing your praises before now, I am too lazy to be constructive.

Not at all - I am always massively flattered to get nice comments! Thank you so much and here's to being too lazy to be constructive. ;)

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[info]vickythefluffy
2007-12-05 08:10 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, that'd be quite something wouldn't it? "Your wand, Selwyn, you motherfucker, give me your wand!" Voldy gets that little bit more hardcore. And I pluck that quote from nowhere mainly because I am a smug git seeing as my actual surname is the very same *smug*

Oohh what was the essay on? I might steal ideas (mwu ha ha). Mine's rather dull, comparing it with The Great Gatsby on the theme on the past. Ooh.

And it's my pleasure! =D

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-06 12:45 pm UTC (link)
Your surname is Voldemort? ;)

As for the essay - I can't remember the exact question, but the course in general was on writing by women since 1920 (or something like that). I ended up talking about representations of motherhood and daughterhood, specifically the thing of "Oh god I'm turning into my mother" and how that had been written about - like, the inherent dread of doing so, etc. In both fiction and non-fiction, so I looked at Atkinson and Amy Tan and Nancy Friday and a whole bunch of other unrelated works. :-/

I can't even remember what the conclusion was. I just remember the whole thing being really difficult, mainly due to me being a psychology student and used to writing lab reports and the occasional literature review. However, the tutor was sufficiently drippy that it didn't seem to matter much. :D

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[info]vickythefluffy
2007-12-06 04:16 pm UTC (link)
HA! I wish. No, Selwyn. I got a nice stream of abusive texts from friends as they all one by one read past that quote - "OMFG you're ONE OF THEM" etc. etc.

And hmm, intriguing. Sadly mine is english lit rather than psychology, so I'll just content myself with waffling on about structure and imagery *sigh* Ho hum! =D

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-07 02:16 pm UTC (link)
Sadly mine is english lit rather than psychology, so I'll just content myself with waffling on about structure and imagery

Well, that was the problem - everyone else in the class was a lit student (or similar - there were also drama students etc etc), and I was the only sciencey one. We had to take these liberal-arts-style classes for credit and I always seemed to end up stuck in classes where everyone else was talking about structure and imagery and I was like, "Um. I sometimes read novels?" :D

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[info]potterfreak0515
2007-12-05 11:18 pm UTC (link)
Lily being a doe pissed me off as well. Maybe Snape knows James was a stag, so he thinks of Lily as a doe? Or something? Since Arthur's Patronus is a weasel, does that mean Molly's Animagus form would be a female weasel?

And I wish Jo would explain stuff like the Deluminator! I think she just stopped trying during the last two books. I think Megan from SnapeCast pointed out that all the interesting magical theories (life debts, time travel, the whole Department of Mysteries) just got thrown out in this book.

Yes, Gryffindors are stupid. That's why I'm a Ravenclaw.

Think of how he almost murders Draco - who is a mean little turd and all, but as far as Harry knows is pretty much just an incredibly annoying kid in his year at school.

To be fair, Draco was a Death Eater and tried to Crucio Harry right before that. And Harry didn't know what Sectumsempra did. Although I suppose that makes him even more stupid for using some random spell labeled "For enemies."

And the blue fire was used in book one a couple of times. Once they were sitting around it outside because they were cold. Right before Snape came and told Harry library books weren't allowed outside (Harry was reading Quidditch Through the Ages). She also used it to set fire to Snape's robes during the Quidditch match. And I think she might have used it to get rid of the Devil's Snare, but I'm not sure. (Now that I think about it, how did they see when they went under the trapdoor? I don't think anyone was using Lumos. Maybe there were torches in the walls?) Anyway, I can't recall her using it any of the other books, but I've got a feeling she did in book four.

Sorry, I'm a nerd.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-12-06 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Maybe Snape knows James was a stag, so he thinks of Lily as a doe? Or something?

I can imagine that's the reasoning behind her being a doe - but you'd think Snape of all people would be more likely to see Lily as independent of James (he was happy to save her but not James and Harry, remember). *Sigh*... I dunno.

I think she just stopped trying during the last two books.

I think so, too. The feeling I got from those last two was that she was really a bit bored of Harry but she knew she had to finish it, so she was just treating it like a job that needed doing, rather than being passionate about it any more. She did an interview around the time of OotP where she said she thought book seven would be the longest of all, even longer than book five, because she'd have trouble "letting go" (or something) but then actually both six and seven were shorter and seemed... more rushed, I guess.

To be fair, Draco was a Death Eater and tried to Crucio Harry right before that. And Harry didn't know what Sectumsempra did.

That's a fair point. (My excuse: I've only read HBP once.) Still, though - as you say - hitting someone with a spell labelled "for enemies" but with otherwise unknown properties, which comes from an unknown source, when you're angry anyway and hate the other person - is hardly well-thought out.

I remember them using fire before - I think Hermione lights one in a toilet in book two - I just don't remember it being specifically blue, scoop-able, and carry-in-a-jar-able. I didn't mean to suggest that JKR had ripped off the Zelda game - I'm not sure what my point was actually. I dunno, it just jumped out at me.

Sorry, I'm a nerd.

You have nothing to apologise for. *Salutes fellow Ravenclaw* :D And thank you for commenting!

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