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Deathly Hallows uberwank: Chapter 15, The Goblin's Revenge
"The goblin's revenge" sounds like a real ale, or possibly a euphemism for what happens to you the day after you eat a goblin curry. :-/


As the chapter starts, our intrepid trio are... camping! Yaaaay! Camping is a lot of fun, you know. You get to sit around and bicker and feel bored and cold and stuff. It's great. They are having so much fun camping that they decide they will keep doing it, but just to mix things up, will move to somewhere else every day. Wheeeeee! This is great stuff!

No, it's not. It's the kind of thing that seems fun in theory if you're about ten years old and haven't ever actually been camping before in real life. Camping is miserable business.

Although, they are camping in a tent that can be put up magically with a single word, and which has beds and stuff, so from their point of view it could be much worse. From our point of view, though, it's possibly even more dull, because it's not even the story of a gang of spotty angsty teenagers camping. It's the story of a gang of spotty angsty teenagers sitting around in a bedsit.

Urgh. OK, so Harry buries Mad-Eye's mad eye under a tree, into the bark of which he carves out the Cruciatus logo, then they pack up the tent (as if that's hard work) and move on. Harry goes out to find food but encounters dementors and can't cast a patronus, so he comes back empty-handed, upon which he is berated by Ron, who is an ungrateful fuck. They bicker it out. I love it when they bicker - it's funny, and entertaining, and witty, and interesting, except for the part where I'm lying.

Anyway, the bickering eventually leads to Hermione realising the horcrux is totally the One Ring and making Harry take it off, and also deciding they should all take turns wearing it to keep it safe. Again with the FUCKING PUT IT IN THE FUCKING BAG OF FUCKING HOLDING, YOU FUCKWITS. Then they steal eggs and bread from a farm (Hermione wangsts about whether it counts as stealing if you leave money under the chicken coop. I'd say it probably does. You still took without asking, didn't you? What if that was all the food they had and the farmer is a recovering anorexic and pretty much relapses tomorrow because there's an opportunity to not eat, and it's your fault, Hermione? Hermione will continue to wangst about this every time they nick anything to eat, even though wangsting about stealing food is totally old meme. Here's something: in Philip Pullman's The Subtle Knife, one of the characters - Will - leaves money when he takes food towards the start of the book, but by the time he and Lyra leave Cittagazze, he doesn't bother any more. I always liked that, because it's one more little thing that illustrates a move from innocence to experience. In conclusion: Hermione is like 18 and still worrying about it, so she's a total n00b).

Anyway, they eat, and all feel better, and notice that lack of food makes them all irritable, whereas if they eat they are less so. (On the first read I was oddly amazed that they hadn't realised before now that low blood sugar = grumpy, but on reflection, my older brother is diabetic, so maybe I just always took this one for granted.) Ron is the worst, because despite coming from an allegedly poor family, he is a spoiled brat, used to being presented with a three-course meal seven or eight times a day. This, plus wearing the One Ring, means that he spends all day sitting around playing Mario Kart (there's only one controller, and he hogs it) and expecting Harry and Hermione to come up with a plan. These planning sessions consist of Harry and Hermione repeating all their crappy ideas about horcrux locations over and over again, despite having already ruled them out, and waiting for ideas to float into their heads.

This goes on for what seems like years; it is only broken up by Harry having more visions of Dumbledore's ex-boyfriend, and Ron unlocking a new course on Mario Kart but then, unable to complete it, hurling the controller across the room and breaking it. Also, Ron gets pissy with Harry for not providing visions of anything he's interested in, like news of his family or Mario Kart cheat codes. There's a great line where Harry is annoyed that Ron seems to think of him like a television aerial; sadly enough this is probably my favourite bit in the entire chapter, merely because it reflects one of my favourite lines from Brad Neely's Wizard People, Dear Reader, from the segment where Harry puts on the sorting hat:

Oh, Harry only winces at this constant bombardment of pressure to impress. This damn hat, all these fucking kids and teachers looking at him like he's a fucking television. “I don't care, fuck it. Just don't put me with Mouthoil,” is all Harry keeps thinking. Finally, the hat's oscillations tense and cease upon Harry's scalp. Gryffindor it is. Yes. And the universe sighs its magical sigh.

The days spent camping stretch into weeks, and man does it feel like it. Ron and Hermione diss Harry behind his back, while Voldemort continues to fixate on Dumbledore's ex. Ron continues to bitch about the lack of food, or how badly it's cooked when there is any, and Hermione makes the (very fair) point that Ron could STFU and do the cooking if he doesn't like it. I must say, as a dork, I'm bothered by the way that Hogwarts students seem to wind up completely institutionalised. They get provided with feasts for the entirety of their school careers, and then sent out into the world with no idea of how to apply for a job, buy or rent a house, cook, eat healthily, exercise, clean up after themselves and what have you. OK, I know half that stuff is done by magic, but there don't seem to be any home ec or life skills classes to show the kids how to do that stuff by magic (maybe they get them in seventh year, but I doubt it). OK, so I didn't get taught that stuff at school, but then a) I lived at home and had to do those things, not to mention had the opportunity to learn by example, and b) went to university, which is (ideally) a nice, safe environment where you gradually learn to do all that stuff for yourself. Stupid.

Anyway, point is, Ron and Hermione are about to erupt into a slanging match over this, when something massively stupid happens, leading to the argument being postponed because there are way bigger things to think about right now. (To use an analogy, it's like how nobody really found time to fanwank over Neville marrying Hannah Abbott because JKR outed Dumbledore in the same interview.) Here is the massively stupid thing: by complete and utter coincidence, three muggleborn wizards (including Tonks's dad and Harry and Ron's old roommate Dean) and two goblins just happen to sit down to dinner right outside the magic invisible tent, and have a very indepth conversation about the state of the world, which provides our intrepid trio with a very useful update on what's happening out there. (Look, I know it's kind of... incongruous that I can easily believe in goblins and a magical tent and gay werewolves who sleep with ex-cons, but have problems with this setup. What's that line - "Although I can accept talking scarecrows, lions, and great wizards of emerald cities, I find it hard to believe there is no paperwork involved when your house lands on a witch." I wish I knew who said that. Anyway, just go with it, OK?)

Anyway, our intrepid trio decide to take advantage of this incredible coincidence by listening in on Extendable Ears (available now from Malo Mart and all good stockists, rrp £2.99). First off, the A-team or whoever they are use the accio charm to catch some fish to eat: "there were several distinct splashes and the slapping sounds of fish against flesh. Somebody grunted appreciatively". You know you've been living in Brighton too long when that sentence sounds kinky. Anyway, they just accio the salmon right out of the water, which begs the question, how come the Crew ended up eating pike earlier and it was bad? Hermione said she cooked it and Harry caught it... and it's not like accio is a charm Harry can't do. In fact, he busts that one out all the time. How did they fuck it up, then? I bet he tried to disarm the river or something. That would be textbook Harry.

Here are some of the titbits they manage to pick up, anyway:

  • Ted Tonks refused to register as muggleborn, and is on the run.
  • Dean is also on the run, as he doesn't know if his bio-dad was a wizard or not. This is one of the places where I like that JKR gave us some supplementary information. Dean isn't important enough that it seems like a cheat to tell us his background outside the books (whereas being told Harry's job in an interview makes it unimportant when it shouldn't be).
  • The third guy is named Dirk; he escaped on the way to Azkaban.
  • The goblins aren't on the side of the Rebel Alliance per se, but are on the run anyway as the death eaters have fucked them over regardless. Goblins do not have time for this type of bullshit.
  • Ginny and a couple of other kids tried to take Gryffindor's sword from the headmaster's office, so Snape had it sent to Gringotts for safekeeping, but, big joke tiem, it's a fake! (Yeah, well, they said that about carpetbook, didn't they.)

... Actually, speaking of Ginny, this is a good opportunity to wank about her. I make no secret of not liking her much, but the thing is I would be happy to like her if I had evidence she was likeable. (Despite what some in fandom believe, not all Ginny-haters are fifteen and in love with Daniel Radcliffe.) One of the things that bothers me most about Ginny is that we are only ever told she's done or been or said anything worthwhile. We're rarely shown it. In fact, in most of the situations where she could show herself to be interesting/talented/funny/etc, either she doesn't, or else we aren't present to witness it. This is one of those moments - we're supposed to believe she broke into Snape's office and all that, but it's up there with "Ginny Weasley had scored a billion goals on the quidditch field!" or "Harry remembered a private moment they had shared once!" or "Even Plotus Devicius in Slytherin was of the opinion that he'd tap Ginny!"

The thing is, there are a variety of situations where another character does something Ginny could have done instead without any major changes to the plot. For example - I like Luna, so I'm pleased we get rather a lot of her in this book - in the scenes at Malfoy Manor and then at Shell Cottage. However, if JKR wanted to build Ginny into a suitable love interest for Harry, why not substitute her in these scenes? Or, put another way, from a storytelling standpoint, why is this Luna? Have Ginny taken by the death eaters and held as a punishment for the Weasleys' views and involvement with the Order. (This also provides Ron with another reason to be grumpy, but potentially a slightly more believeable one.) Have her keep Ollivander company (like Luna does), provide comforting words when Dobby dies (like Luna does), hold her own against the death eaters (like Luna does). Have her be the one with whom Harry shares his thoughts on the war, on death, on the danger they're in. The only change needed is what to do with Luna so that Xeno sells the Crew out later - but that's easily done, have her in Azkaban or even at Malfoy Manor, just kept somewhere separate.

I just don't get it. I really don't. In any fandom, I want the hero's romantic relationship arc to be likeable and believable and to leave me feeling satisfied with how things turned out. Like I said, I don't even like Ginny, but I can't help but feel she got a pretty raw deal in many ways.

Anyway, back to the eavesdropping:

  • The goblins find the whole fake sword thing hilarious. Huh. I guess you had to be there.
  • Ginny and her sidekicks were punished for their misdemeanour by being made to hang with Hagrid. That's presented as a source of relief (that they weren't tortured or something) but Hagrid's such a boring bastard, the impact is lost on me.
  • At one point, Dirk asks Tonks's dad, "You believe Snape killed Dumbledore?" OLD MEME! (Although, possibly, so old meme that perhaps JKR is going for that thing where it goes on so long it stops being funny, but then becomes funny again.)
  • Uh... what else... oh, I guess, Dean supports Harry, as does the Quibbler. Ted Tonks thinks he seemed nice enough, except for the part where Harry verbally abused Ted's wife, but whatevs.

After a while, they bugger off again. This part is just so stupid. It's beyond shoehorned in, it's... sledgehammered in? (Someone help me out here.) It's also stupid that Harry/Ron/Hermione don't go and talk to them, or even follow them undercover to see if they can pick up anything else that might be useful. Morons.

After they've fucked off, there's a bit where Hermione pulls out the portrait of Phineas Nigellus and basically makes it confirm everything they've just heard about the sword and Ginny and everything. She addresses him as Professor Black - I am confused by that, as I thought Nigellus was his surname (isn't that Latin for "black" anyway?) but I don't actually care. He helpfully provides MOAR exposition - Ginny's buddies were Neville and Luna (and the thing is, I can buy that they would try to steal the sword because we have direct evidence of both of them being badasses at other points in the books), Dumbledore's portrait can't come and talk to them for "plot reasons", blah blah blah. Phineas insults more or less everyone, each time eliciting a shriek of protest from Hermione: "Hagrid's not an oaf!" (Hermione, I assure you that he is.)

Finally he drops that Dumbledore used the sword of Gryffindor to destroy the ring horcrux, and pisses off. This discovery causes Harry and Hermione to fangirl along the lines of, well, in that case, Dumbledore must have hidden the sword somewhere we'd find it! WTF.

This is where the wank kicks off. Ron starts to grump about how he thought by now they'd be flooring ninja assassins with roundhouse kicks, gunning down terrorists, riding motorbikes over the bodies of death eaters, defusing bombs using only their mouths, fighting in bullet-time - not sitting around doing nothing and being bored. In other words, Ron was expecting something like this:


And Ron got something more like this:


(ETAYeah, I changed it... the other one wasn't the right kind of funny.)

I gotta say, though, for all Ron's being a dick, I kind of agree with him. Harry, never one to refuse a flame war, wanks back, insulting Ron's mum - and then brings Hermione into it, accusing her of bitching about him behind his back. Then, for good measure, he compares them both to Nazis, and then to "those mean girls who picked on me at school". Fandom Wank pricks up its ears. Ron, in his rage, pretty much tells Harry that he has it easier than Ron, because Ron's parents are still alive. Fandom Wank goes apeshit. Also, Ron uses the bizarrely mild phrase "rat's fart", which begins to appear in macro form within minutes. Ron and Harry are seconds away from fighting with knives, but are prevented by Hermione blocking them both, so instead, Ron makes for the exit. He challenges Hermione to come with; she says she's staying. (Is there any chance this three-way challenge of loyalties and the bit in Return of the Jedi where Han gets pissy that Leia will seemingly talk to Luke but not to him... could possibly be related?)

This, finally, is too much for Ron, so he pulls the ultimate trump card. He posts a vitriolic and CAPSLOCK-abusing journal entry in which he claims to be leaving the fandom, and then almost right afterwards, deletes his journal. Fandom Wank parties like ewoks on Endor, for, at last, Potterdammerung has come.

This chapter is almost beyond parody in how stupid and wanky it is.

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Oh - and a speshul announcement. Props and squees to [info]evil_underlord for putting together the visual/Dragonforce-based representation of Ron's dreams of glory used in this instalment. ♥



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Far too much copying and pasting.
[info]ms_treesap
2007-11-11 01:42 pm UTC (link)
Time to bring out this icon, I think.

I agree with you on Harry/Ginny; that's why Harry/Luna is one of my few het pairs of choice (Nargles :3).

Incidentally, [info]amanuesis1 had a good debate about writing plot rather than character in H/G here: http://amanuensis1.livejournal.com/122134.html.

They get provided with feasts for the entirety of their school careers, and then sent out into the world with no idea of how to apply for a job, buy or rent a house, cook, eat healthily, exercise, clean up after themselves and what have you. OK, I know half that stuff is done by magic, but there don't seem to be any home ec or life skills classes to show the kids how to do that stuff by magic (maybe they get them in seventh year, but I doubt it).

I doubt it too. I think this is where JKR's intended audience becomes apparent; surely there should be classes in Latin and English as well as other languages, Muggle Studies should be complusory for the wizard born and Muggle born first years should have some sort of Wizarding Culture class where they can learn about traditions and how write with quills? But few nine or ten year olds would want to read about things like this.

three muggleborn wizards (including Tonks's dad and Harry and Ron's old roommate Dean) and two goblins just happen to sit down to dinner right outside the magic invisible tent, and have a very indepth conversation about the state of the world, which provides our intrepid trio with a very useful update on what's happening out there.

Even when I was speed-reading this the evening of the 21st after work, that and the lack of Patronus struck as WTF moments. Again with the bad fanfic.

She addresses him as Professor Black - I am confused by that, as I thought Nigellus was his surname (isn't that Latin for "black" anyway?)

His surname's definetly Black. Nigellus must be a middle name. *coughRemusLupincough*






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Re: Far too much copying and pasting.
[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-11 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Harry/Luna is one of my few het pairs of choice

Me too - I'm more or less indifferent to any Harry het pairings, but I figure if he's going to be with paired up with someone, I'd've preferred it to be someone who brings out his good qualities, encourages him to think, isn't conventional and all the rest of it. I can't see Luna silently accepting that snog in front of an entire common room either. Sigh.

surely there should be classes in Latin and English as well as other languages, Muggle Studies should be complusory for the wizard born and Muggle born first years should have some sort of Wizarding Culture class where they can learn about traditions and how write with quills?

YES YES YES. It's bothered me for a long time that they don't learn Latin, given that they use it in almost every spell. And it seems kind of pointless that they do astronomy too - the only purpose seems to be so that there can be classes at midnight and therefore show how crazy and mixed-up the wizarding world is. Your point about muggleborn kids is an excellent one. And why an entire class for transfiguration? When was the last time any character turned anything into anything?

I guess this is because all the classes were devised for PS/SS which is very much A Children's Book, so there doesn't need to be any logic - why wouldn't a wizard school work that way? And then you get to this book and, er, they don't know how to feed themselves. *Headdesk*

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Re: Far too much copying and pasting.
[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-11 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh and I also meant to say - thanks for the link to [info]amanuesis1's post. She gets it spot on, IMO.

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[info]spacefragments
2007-11-11 03:34 pm UTC (link)
and Ron unlocking a new course on Mario Kart but then, unable to complete it, hurling the controller across the room and breaking it.

can't blame him, the special cup in the 150cc level is fucking hard.

(Look, I know it's kind of... incongruous that I can easily believe in goblins and a magical tent and gay werewolves who sleep with ex-cons, but have problems with this setup.

LOL, I know exactly what you mean. It's like... too perfect. or convenient. but it doesn't particularly bother me, tbh.

How did they fuck it up, then? I bet he tried to disarm the river or something. That would be textbook Harry.
*dies*

IA with you on ginny. i'm pretty indifferent towards her, so that's all i'm going to say. essentialy she got reduced to the role of "hero's prize". kind of like Zelda. except i actually like Zelda because at least she gets to be kickass on screen from time to time. Um.

Dragonforce? LOL. I approve. They might be cheesy, but I like them anyway.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-11 04:36 pm UTC (link)
I am not allowed to play Mario Kart any more for exactly these reasons. I sometimes get angry and start shouting that the track is "impossible" or the game is "broken". :D

It's like... too perfect. or convenient

Damn right. It's almost like JK Rowling couldn't think of a better way to give useful information to Harry, Ron and Hermione... but surely not.

essentialy she got reduced to the role of "hero's prize". kind of like Zelda. except i actually like Zelda because at least she gets to be kickass on screen from time to time

Plus Link is gay (well, most of the time). And Zelda gets to throw light arrows around and stuff. And she's kind of a badass. Whereas Ginny's main achievement of the series seems to be that one time she nearly gave Harry a blowjob, unless it's that one time her mum saved her from Bellatrix. FFS.

Dragonforce are officially the funniest band in the world.

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[info]semielliptical
2007-11-11 10:08 pm UTC (link)
Look, I know it's kind of... incongruous that I can easily believe in goblins and a magical tent and gay werewolves who sleep with ex-cons, but have problems with this setup.

I don't think it's incongruous. JKR created a magical world; in order to enjoy that at all I need to be able to accept that magic knitting needles and floo powder and all of that can exist. But that doesn't mean she gets excused from providing explanations for incredibly convenient coincidences. The rebel radio was also a handy way of bringing in news of the rest of the world, but at least it was more believable than the million (billion?) to one coincidence of these two groups of characters happening to end up in the same bit of woods. (Aren't there lots of woods in Britain?) She overuses learning-important-facts-by-overhearing, but at least she could have provided some *reason* all of them were in the same place; some significance to the location and/or date or something.

My, I'm long-winded tonight! What I most wanted to say: great chapter! This one really deserved the uberwank.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-12 11:15 am UTC (link)
She overuses learning-important-facts-by-overhearing, but at least she could have provided some *reason* all of them were in the same place; some significance to the location and/or date or something.

Yes, exactly. Why not say... I don't know, perhaps the location has some special pull for Gryffindors or something. It would even make more sense to have it happen in a wizarding pub or on the outskirts of Hogsmeade or something, although it would still be a bit random. Even a crappy explanation like that would be better than none at all. It's almost laughably implausible as it is. And the result of that, for me at least, is that I sort of drop my suspension of disbelief.

What I most wanted to say: great chapter!

*Squee* Thank you so much!

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[info]minnow_53
2007-11-12 09:30 am UTC (link)
Anyway, they just accio the salmon right out of the water, which begs the question, how come the Crew ended up eating pike earlier and it was bad?

This is one of the points where I found it hard to suspend disbelief: as you say, werewolves, goblins and dragons aren't a problem, but plot devices are. In spite of the convenient somethingth law of Transfiguration, I still feel that wizards should be able to conjure up the occasional decent meal, one way or another.

What if that was all the food they had and the farmer is a recovering anorexic and pretty much relapses tomorrow because there's an opportunity to not eat, and it's your fault, Hermione?

This is one of my favourite line in the uberwank so far! (Among many others.) Great stuff. Actually, I did like the farmhouse, which had a genuine sort of Famous Five vibe, but your version is so much better.

Wonderful, as usual. This is the only thing in the HP fandom I'm still reading, and I'm really, really enjoying every word, and image. Though I didn't watch the whole of the second video... :( Enough to get a feel for it.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-12 11:34 am UTC (link)
werewolves, goblins and dragons aren't a problem, but plot devices are

I think that's the best summing-up of this one I've heard. :)

In spite of the convenient somethingth law of Transfiguration, I still feel that wizards should be able to conjure up the occasional decent meal, one way or another

Yes yes yes. Leaving aside that law of thingy (which pretty much says you can change food into other food AND increase the amount you have), they've got an invisibility cloak. Frankly, why aren't they just shoplifting every day?

This is the only thing in the HP fandom I'm still reading, and I'm really, really enjoying every word, and image.

That makes me really happy, because I'm massively chuffed - but it also makes me a little sad; is it just me or are things really dying down in fandom? :(

Though I didn't watch the whole of the second video

Neither did I. :D

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[info]minnow_53
2007-11-12 01:00 pm UTC (link)
is it just me or are things really dying down in fandom?

I think they're certainly dying down in non-canon ship fandom: it's hard to write a pairing you don't believe in 100%, and even with Remus's wangsting in DH, he still married a woman and had a baby. So the eternal love R/S really doesn't wash anymore, IMO.

Also, a lot of HP fandom has moved to Insane Journal. To be honest, this annoys the shit out of me, to the extent where I won't even open an IJ for emergency purposes. Irrational, but there you are.

So it's particularly great to have your Uberwank to look forward to: keeps the fandom going with something logical, witty and original. I'm glad the book is so long, and perhaps once you've finished you can start on the others! Though that would probably be a lifelong task. :D

Edited at 2007-11-12 01:02 pm UTC

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-12 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Even though I don't really write R/S, I think I know what you mean. It feels sort of false, or maybe just futile, to bother squeeing over R/S any more. Post-HBP there was at least the knowledge that this thing wasn't over yet and anything could happen. Since DH I think the dynamic in the fandom has changed massively, at least - like you say - in the non-canon-supported/fanony bits of it. (This is the first fandom I've been in where I've experienced that change, and I keep meaning to bash out a post about it, but whenever I try I end up going off on tangents about how Red Dwarf was rubbish after series six or whatever. :P )

Also, a lot of HP fandom has moved to Insane Journal.

I did not know that. I guess this was a strike/boldthrough response thing?

So it's particularly great to have your Uberwank to look forward to: keeps the fandom going with something logical, witty and original.

*Blushes* Thank you. That's such a massive compliment, you have no idea. ♥

Truth be told, writing this, occasionally it does feel like I'm striving on to keep the fandom alive, a sole revolutionary, blah blah blah; most of the time it's more like I'm one of those slightly mad people who stands alone in a city centre with a sign that says "DIANA MURDERED BY ELTON JOHN - Isaiah 27:1", bellowing into a megaphone.

I'm glad the book is so long, and perhaps once you've finished you can start on the others!

Hee - I've been considering it! :D Although I'd be wary of doing PoA because I still like that one. HBP though...

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[info]evil_underlord
2007-11-12 03:11 pm UTC (link)
I think that this chapter brings up a few points for me, mainly about the nature of magic in the series, but also about how, for all the good points of Rowlings work, it remains the kind of generic fantasy that was parodied before it was even written.

First off is the point you make about the trio basically waiting around for flying ideas to hit them in the brain, which recalls to me, not only a gag in one of the early Pratchett novels but also the theory Uncle Brian espouses in Dance of the Voodoo Handbag. But it's totally what the trio do. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Mainly, though, the thing which really cheesed me off was the way in which this pointless, incessent camping seemed to be infinately sustainable. There seems to be no limit to the amount of magic the trio can perform. As we know from thermodynamics energy can be neither created or destroyed - and even before this was codified most serious (by which I mean in any way detailed) attempts to create a system of magic looked in some way at where the energy to perform that magic would come from, be it some mystical energy well, the life force of the magician (or those around them), or basically anywhere other than out of their arse.

Until now, when magic use has either been confined to short outbursts, strongly magical areas or healthy adults its been easier to think of this mechanism as being unimortant and beneath the hood. Having a bunch of underfed kids out on their own in the wilderness with nothing to survive on but magic should have been the perfect opportunity to show us that mechanism, to give us the limitations. I know its supposed to be a magical world of excitement and everything, but after 6 books and god knows how many murders and slayings and backstabbings and so on, the 'but you're a Wizard, harry' schtick is starting to get a little tired.

If magic costs you nothing, why not just float everywhere? It's less work than walking.

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Nerdcore rising
[info]fera_festiva
2007-11-12 06:42 pm UTC (link)
a gag in one of the early Pratchett novels

I think I probably had that in the back of my mind. Something about some amazing idea for world peace or whatever being had by a duck, if I recall correctly.

You make far too many good points for me to quote them all, so let me instead award you some kind of cookie or other baked good. Only explanation I can think of requires wizards being able to photosynthesize their venom.

Having a bunch of underfed kids out on their own in the wilderness with nothing to survive on but magic should have been the perfect opportunity to show us that mechanism, to give us the limitations.

The problem is, I don't think JK Rowling has thought this stuff through properly - not even decided that yes, it is confusing, but let's assume even wizards don't understand it. It's more like she's just put her hands over her ears and gone "lalala I can't hear you" whenever her brain tried to consider how anything worked. (A more me-specific example is the boggart thing - they turn into your greatest fear, but many people don't fear concrete things, they fear death or failure or enclosed spaces or heights. It only works if we assume everyone's greatest fear is a phobia of something "concrete" - giant spiders, etc. There's a whole 'nother argument in this one though.)

If magic costs you nothing, why not just float everywhere? It's less work than walking.

... Maybe a wizard did it?

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Re: Nerdcore rising
[info]evil_underlord
2007-11-13 11:18 am UTC (link)
I have some theories, but they won't fit in a comment

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