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Deathly Hallows uberwank: Chapter 10, Kreacher's Tale
We open with ANGST, a common motif in this book and, indeed, in this chapter.

Harry wakes up while it's still dark (I did that the other day, having had a dream that a ghost had been in my kitchen listening to my Patrick Wolf CDs without asking) and angsts over the fact that Ron and Hermione seem to have fallen asleep holding hands, and then angsts some more over Dumbledore. There's lots of that "It was strange to think that less than 24 hours ago he'd been masturbating over Ginny's breasts without a care in the world" crap, and loads of reiteration, which even Harry seems to find boring. So he distracts himself by exploring the house by wandlight, like a junior FBI agent (if the X-files was, in fact, a realistic programme). Seriously, dude, put the lights on, it is allowed. First he looks into the room he shared with Ron, where the Phineas Nigellus portrait is empty: "Phineas Nigellus was evidentally spending the night in the Headmaster's study at Hogwarts". If what I've read on fanfiction.net is to believed, he's not the only one who does that. Dayum!

Harry finishes angsting there, and heads upstairs until he finds - Sirius's bedroom! We know it's Sirius's bedroom because it has a nameplate on the door reading Sirius. Man, that kills me. I love it. No, really, I love how Sirius Black - the guy who went to prison for twelve years for a series of murders he didn't commit, like a wizardly member of the A-Team, escaped, was killed in battle, albeit by a curtain - has a nameplate on his bedroom door. Oh, yeah, it's probably from when he was a kid and whatever, but still. If it were up to me, the nameplate would have a picture of a puppy on it.

Anyway, the room is messy and dirty, but cool, albeit oddly similar to Skeletor's (see Chapter 7). Sirius has a bunch of pictures of girls in bikinis on the walls. (Hee, nice try, JK. Sirius's heterosexuality is pastede on yay!) Harry goes through Sirius's stuff, as you do, and finds some designer underwear, some sexually explicit photographs of Remus Lupin, a limited edition Cruciatus vinyl, an empty bottle of poppers and, on the wall, a MWPP picture taken at Hogwarts. (Incidentally, the US edition has a drawing of this photograph, and it's got a full moon in the background which is kind of stupid, but maybe the moon isn't full-full, just extremely gibbous or something.) Harry grabs a handful of papers and shuffles through them and then, right there in his hand is a letter to Sirius from Lily. Harry angsts over it for absolutely ages, eventually resorting to angsting over the similarity between Lily's handwriting and his own, which I find a little cliched. The letter itself raises a few questions:

1. It was written when Harry was a year old, by which point Sirius has left home, so how did it end up in his bedroom? My best guess/fanwank is that Remus brought a bunch of Sirius' stuff back to his parents' house following Sirius' imprisonment, since he didn't want to keep any of it and was moving out of the (one-bedroom) flat they had shared anyway. Um.

2. Lily addresses Sirius as Padfoot (and Peter Pettigrew as "Wormy", which is the second worst nickname in this book, and reminds me of the sort of thing you find in badfic, up there with "Mione". Lily comes up with the worst nicknames ever), which, anyway, makes me wonder if she knew about their Animagus forms.

3. I had a third point, but, no, it's gone.

A while after this, Ron and Hermione find Harry angsting and chew him out for going "missing". Wasn't he gone for like half an hour? Harry, like a fangirl after a book release, badly wants to discuss his new theory about Dumbledore, which he duly does. This involves the tedious spelling-out of a lot of stuff most of us were probably thinking by now anyway, like stuff about Bathilda Bagshot and stuff about Godric's Hollow and stuff like that and more stuff.

They head for the stairs with a view to finding some breakfast. For such a logical girl, Hermione's assumption that there will be anything edible in the house is hardly a sound one. Actually, I say that - when I was fifteen or so my friend Hollie moved back into her dad's house in Plymouth, which had been more or less empty for years. We found a packet of Angel Delight there with a sell-by date of some eight years previously, and ate it anyway. We didn't die, so perhaps Hermione is working on the assumption that all empty houses contain packets of Angel Delight roughly a decade old. Anyway, an angelic delight of a breakfast is on the cards until Harry spots whose room is on the other side of the hall: one Regulus Arcturus Black. Geddit???!?! Harry has figured out, finally, who RAB is! The discovery comes only a few short years after everyone else in the entire world worked it out, so Harry is clearly a clever guy, and a worthy hero.

The prospect of breakfast is abandoned in favour of checking out this Regulus fellow's room. (Side question - do you pronounce Regulus with a hard or soft G?) His room isn't quite as cool as Sirius's; it's a bit too "school spirit" for my taste, with Slytherin banners everywhere like he's a cheerleader or something. He also has a Voldemort collage. I had a Jarvis Cocker one of those. There's also a picture of Regulus and his Quidditch team (a rather good name for an electro-prog goth/nu-rave band, I think. Think of the Go! Team crossed with Anathema with a touch of Peter Gabriel-era Genesis). Regulus has the traditional Black family look of "haughty", but isn't as hot as Sirius. Note that Harry is always describing men as good-looking. OK, I know he calls Ginny "beautiful" a couple of times, but he also thinks of her as resembling Fred and George. Whereas he hates Voldemort, and yet pretty much every time we hear anything about the young Tom Riddle we hear how attractive he is. Man, you can so tell these books are written by a woman. Time was I'd have used this as evidence Harry was gay, but I'm too jaded these days even to slash Harry, which is depressing.

Right after this we get a ton of "Previously on the Harry Potter Show" about lockets and caves and Death Eaters and stuff. Ron starts searching for the locket, but gets inky hands. Hermione has the genius idea of summoning the locket. Nothing happens, but it might have an enchantment on it so they search manually anyway. So what was the point? Anyway, they spend about an hour searching for this fucking locket, before remembering they had it way back in book 5 but threw it out. LAME! They look for a while longer, and the thought of that ancient dessert becomes ever more beguiling. No joy on the locket, so now Harry summons Kreacher to be interrogated. Naturally, Mundungus Fletcher took the locket. Boo! Hiss! Kreacher breaks down, confesses to having failed in his orders, and totally flips out. He starts frantically self-harming and crying; at the same time, due to the special brand of magic house-elves use, the Linkin Park song "In the end" starts playing. Harry orders Kreacher to STFU, because he does not have time to deal with this type of bullshit (the music stops with one of those comedy record scratching noises) and to explain. Exposition time!

The basic story is this:


  • While Regulus was a Death Eater, Voldemort needed an elf; Regulus offered Kreacher's services.
  • Kreacher went to the horcrux cave with Voldemort and was forced to drink the potion, so that the real horcrux could be placed there. Kreacher was abandoned there, but escaped by disapparating, since Regulus's order to return, to a house-elf, outweighed the theoretical impossibility of disapparation and/or Voldemort hadn't thought to house-elf-proof the cave. Kreacher reported back to Regulus.
  • Some time later, Regulus asked Kreacher to take him to the cave. This time, Regulus drank the potion, and he died. Under his orders, though, Kreacher replaced the real horcrux with the fake one and escaped.
  • Regulus had also ordered Kreacher to destroy the locket, but he was unable to do so. It stayed in the house until recently.

That's the bare bones of it, but it takes about a year to get through the story due to the sheer number of "Previously on the Harry Potter Show" moments, descriptions of Kreacher's appearance and the fact that he keeps bursting into tears and self-harming and that it's pitiful, bits where Hermione goes on about house-elf enslavement/magic/psychology, and a rather awkward bit where Hermione tries to hug Kreacher.

Eventually, Harry gives Kreacher a task: pls to find Mundungus Fletcher and bring him to the house kthxbai. To try and make things a bit less awkward between them, Harry also gives Kreacher Regulus's fake horcrux locket, which causes Kreacher to have a nervous breakdown/tantrum; it takes fucking ages to calm him down. And that's it.

Meh, this chapter is OK, and I liked the MWPP photo and the letter because I generally like Marauder-era backstory and things related to them. I'm very aware that if JKR wrote a backstory it would be probably quite dull and nonsensical, but because she hasn't properly, these characters still have the potential to be quite complex and interesting. Still, though, this is only OK. I can't think of anything else to say about it - whether to snark or to fangirl, it doesn't matter. And there wasn't a single opportunity to quote from Star Wars, insert a video, or throw gratuitous macros around. Meh and meh again.

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[info]evil_underlord
2007-10-17 02:29 pm UTC (link)

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[info]evil_underlord
2007-10-17 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Also, I love how, as with a lot of the dramatic/tense elements of this book, the house is only spooky/cold/damp/dark/unwelcoming because they resolutely refuse to make it into a place they can use. If they can apparate onto a doorstep, then surely they can also apparate onto a secret helipad on the roof. And yeah, turn the fucking lights on, why dont you? You own the house!

Anyway, this has provided my lols for the afternoon nicely.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-17 04:06 pm UTC (link)
It never fails to freak me out how much movie!Kreacher looks like a certain acquaintance of ours...

the house is only spooky/cold/damp/dark/unwelcoming because they resolutely refuse to make it into a place they can use

Word. It really pisses me off thay spent at least a year using it as Order HQ, and there were those huge lumps of OotP taken up with them cleaning and throwing things away, but apparently whacking some emulsion on the walls is beyond them.

This chapter is stupid.

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[info]spacefragments
2007-10-17 03:19 pm UTC (link)
i can't even remember this chapter existed, so i can't really comment on backstory and such. i need to re-read the book. is there a pdf somewhere i can download?

pastede on yay!
*literally* pastede on yay.


the handwriting detail didn't really bother me, probably because my mom and i used to have pretty similar handwriting too. which makes me wonder, is it even posible to have the same/similar handwriting to your parents if you probably never even saw them writing? is it, like, genetic? what does it depend on? ahh shutting up. maybe i could google it.

My best guess/fanwank is that Remus brought a bunch of Sirius' stuff back to his parents' house

it hasn't been explained yet? my guess is similar to yours, except i think he kept stuff stored away somewhere, maybe because he couldn't bring himself to get rid of them, and brought them with him when he moved into 12GP.

Time was I'd have used this as evidence Harry was gay, but I'm too jaded these days even to slash Harry, which is depressing
not even for lulz? i mean, i don't think he's gay or anything, but i loled all over the place with the h/d subtext.

Harry orders Kreacher to STFU, because he does not have time to deal with this type of bullshit and also because he doesn't want anyone to out-angst him.

so harry gives kreacher that locket and kreacher suddenly loves him? damn. house elves are easy.
isn't this also the chapter where everyone blames sirius for being soooo mean to poor baby kreacher, maybe if he had treated him with ~love~ kreacher wouldn't have helped to get him killed, bad, bad sirius etc?

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-17 04:22 pm UTC (link)
I dunno about pdf, but I'm sure Carpetbook is still haunting the intarwebs...

I was kind of torn on the handwriting thing. (Actually the first draft of this chapter had a mini rant about whether handwriting is informed by environmental or genetic factors etc etc but I didn't even have the energy to leave it in, because it ended up with no point.) In honesty it doesn't bother me that much, but I dunno, I guess it just seemed like JKR makes Harry angst over every possible thing about the letter and it's still not angsty enough, so let's whack in a handwriting angst as well. Meh.

not even for lulz? i mean, i don't think he's gay or anything, but i loled all over the place with the h/d subtext

Oh, yeah, lulz are still happening. H/D has the best subtext ever. Some of it's not even subtext, it's like, "Harry was idly daydreaming about sucking off Malfoy when Ron walked into the Gryffindor common room". H/D was never my OTP, but it was the first slash ship I ever got into, so I have a soft spot for it. And now I think of it, there are a bunch of later chapters I made notes on where Harry does, indeed, have gay sex, so that's OK. I'm not sure what my point is, I need a coffee.

I am not at all convinced by Kreacher suddenly loving Harry and all that crap. Nor am I convinced by all that bad bad Sirius crap. In OotP Kreacher is pretty horrible, and Sirius isn't all that mean to him, just yells at him a couple of times. It's all just inconsistent and messy and kind of stupid.

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[info]spacefragments
2007-10-17 05:10 pm UTC (link)
i read the carpetbook the first time, but i don't want to re-read it, because it was eye torture. and some pages were so blurry they were impossible to read. between that and the parts that were too boring to even read, i think i read half the book, at most.

dude, if sirius had tried to be nicer to kreacher, i bet he would have still answered sirius with nothing but a string of insults. eh.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-17 05:54 pm UTC (link)
if sirius had tried to be nicer to kreacher, i bet he would have still answered sirius with nothing but a string of insults

Yeah, I don't get this Kreacher-Sirius thing. You're right with the above, so why is it Sirius's fault? Aaargh! The problem is that ultimately, the difficult relationship between Sirius and Kreacher should (possibly) have depth and stuff but it doesn't, it's really boring. Meh.

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[info]minnow_53
2007-10-17 04:30 pm UTC (link)
Some time later, Regulus asked Kreacher to take him to the cave. This time, Regulus drank the potion, and he died.

You've hit a major inconsistency here: JKR's, not yours. Regulus drinks this potion, right? And he's sucked under? And presumably Kreacher tells everyone what happened? In which case, how do Regulus's family know Voldemort killed him? And aren't people a bit suspicious of this strange cave? And how can his family get to his body with all these Inferi and so on roaming about, plus the hexes? Until DH, I always found the Reg-dead-in-a-ploughed-field type of fanfic strangely appealing: and now we find it's totally not canon. But it IS a lot more logical. /rant

If anyone can explain how Regulus's real death makes sense in the light of OoTP canon, I'll be grateful.

I think it has a hard 'g', mainly because I can't pronounce soft 'g's.

Actually, I say that - when I was fifteen or so my friend Hollie moved back into her dad's house in Plymouth, which had been more or less empty for years. We found a packet of Angel Delight there with a sell-by date of some eight years previously, and ate it anyway. We didn't die, so perhaps Hermione is working on the assumption that all empty houses contain packets of Angel Delight roughly a decade old.

*loves* Can we have some more backstory, plz? Yours, not the Trio's!

Many ♥, as always. :)

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-17 06:26 pm UTC (link)
Shit, you're right. I hadn't noticed this at all. This is a massive oversight. As I remember (book on other side of room, too lazy to find relevant bit), Kreacher is freaking out because he "failed in his orders", and one of his orders from Regulus was not to tell anyone what had happened - but that doesn't solve anything, because if he did tell, well, what you said and if he didn't tell, then how does anyone even know where Regulus is? And Kreacher's so busy doing a Harry impression (not to mention talking in the third person, which gets old really quickly) in this scene that a lot of what he says is kind of ambiguous anyway.

This is making my brain hurt.

Can we have some more backstory, plz?

On that specific incident? That's pretty much it, my friend's dad was a useless wanker and there was a lot of stuff like that in her house because he never went shopping or threw anything out. (Once he told her there was dinner in the fridge and it was a plain ready-made pizza base and half a green pepper.) We were hungry, we found and ate the Angel Delight, it tasted exactly the same as it would had we just bought it. Fun fact: Angel Delight is the only thing that can survive a nuclear winter. The kitchen also had jars of herbs and spices that sort of... undulated. We did not eat those.

Many ♥ back, and thank you! :)

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[info]minnow_53
2007-10-17 07:22 pm UTC (link)
On that specific incident?

Well, generally! :D Because I'm curious, and I love hearing more about people who've survived mummified Angel Delight. Just glad you didn't touch anything undulating! What a lovely word... A ready-made pizza base and half a green pepper has a sort of loaves and fishes quality, doesn't it?

...and if he didn't tell, then how does anyone even know where Regulus is?

Exactly! I'd forgotten Kreacher's silence, but it's one of the points that's been puzzling me. If in OoTP, Sirius had said that Regulus disappeared, and he (and the Black family) assumed he'd been killed, it would make sense. This whole deal has been niggling at me since I first read DH.

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-19 09:05 am UTC (link)
A ready-made pizza base and half a green pepper has a sort of loaves and fishes quality, doesn't it?

LOL! I guess it does. :D

I promise to bring more snippets of backstory. I might even tell you about that time I sent Snape to the Whomping Willow... oh no, wait.

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[info]potterfreak0515
2007-10-19 06:18 am UTC (link)
My best guess/fanwank is that Remus brought a bunch of Sirius' stuff back to his parents' house following Sirius' imprisonment, since he didn't want to keep any of it and was moving out of the (one-bedroom) flat they had shared anyway.

Exactly! That was my thought too! I actually shared this with my Harry Potter club as evidence for Remus/Sirius and they basically ignored me. But did they come up with an explanation? Nope! R/S will live on forever.

And yes, I really am part of a Harry Potter group. Two, actually.

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[info]potterfreak0515
2007-10-19 06:21 am UTC (link)
I meant to italicize the quote. Sorry!

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[info]fera_festiva
2007-10-19 09:17 am UTC (link)
R/S certainly will live on forever. Hoist the colours high! etc. :)

The thing is, even though it's a totally-biased-in-favour-of-R/S fanwank, I hope it's right - because if it isn't, then JKR cocked up again.

Thanks for commenting!

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[info]loveangelstar
2008-06-20 03:36 pm UTC (link)
Sirius has a bunch of pictures of girls in bikinis on the walls. (Hee, nice try, JK. Sirius's heterosexuality is pastede on yay!) Harry goes through Sirius's stuff, as you do, and finds some designer underwear, some sexually explicit photographs of Remus Lupin, a limited edition Cruciatus vinyl, an empty bottle of poppers and, on the wall, a MWPP picture taken at Hogwarts

LOL before he was a raging drunk then :D
Really I need some fic about drunk!remus. You've got me into it, it does just make so much sense!

I know I wondered why he would have that stuff there. The only other thought I had was maybe Remus kept all this stuff *cough* after he moved out of their one bedroomed flat *cough* and then when Sirius was stuck in GP crawling up the walls going mad that Remus brought it round to show him and then they had lots of 'omgoshicantbelieveyoukeptthisstuffiloveyousomuch' sexy time ;)

I say it 'Reeguluss' Well I'm not sure if you'll read that the way I say it cos I stuck at phonetics? Is that what its called? Anywho, how do you say it?

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[info]fera_festiva
2008-06-20 06:30 pm UTC (link)
The drunk Remus thing = curiouser and curiouser. It started as a joke but, yeah, it makes more sense every moment. In fact, I can't think of any explanation for his behaviour in this book (and parts of HBP) other than heavy drinking. :D So it must be canon. Yes.

I do like your theory as to what Sirius's stuff was doing at 12GP, though.

I think I read it as "REH-juh-lus" but I suspect that's wrong. I know I pronounce "Draco" not the way other people seem to (with a flat "ah" instead of "ay" sound) so what do I know. :)

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